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14a getting passionate about pub missing order (9)
S?O?P?O?? Can only come up with shotproof

15a Stop our crosswords initially getting clued badly (7)
??C?U??
30a Rugby player has to dump American shoe (4,3)
??N?- T?P

8d Steals a tiara for some characters somewhere in Germany, once (7)
A???T?A

14 amor ph ous

30 Wing Tip, shoe.

15 occlude

oc clude?
wing tip?
Alsatia is in clue

8. Alsatia, place in Germany - hidden in the clue (steALS...)

Thanks jazzgirl, obviously my 4d is wrong

Thanks Malone not heard of wing tip.. think I have a lot more work to do yet..