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rrrobbo

10th September 2016, 21:37
Just in case anybody is feeling inadequate in the brain department today, I have one answer and am struggling with the jumbo even. I dislike really long clues eg how can all those words in 12 make two 3 letter words only? Oh well, had fared little better last week at this time and eventually made the finish line so I will hope for inspiration tomorrow. Better luck all!
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unclued

10th September 2016, 22:09
Just to get you started the division in 12ac is after videos.
Can anyone explain the wordplay in 3dn (first half) that gives ENTREAT and the first half of 4ac which I think is LONGER.
Thanks.
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rrrobbo

10th September 2016, 22:58
Cheers unclued. For 3, does the 'are' maybe move to after the ten, then you move the first letter of both to get entrea and, erm, somehow fabricate the end t?
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orson

10th September 2016, 23:21
T is an obsolete form of to.
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escuan

10th September 2016, 23:22
t' is an obsolete form of to ("to no longer"), which completes 3 down.
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buzzb

11th September 2016, 03:52
LONGERON - ON
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unclued

11th September 2016, 08:10
Thanks all of you. I've reached the grid staring stage. rrobbo - so that you don't have to do a lot of rubbing out, both the clues I asked about are on the right of the grid.
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notrab

11th September 2016, 11:48
Grid complete but struggling with the ten moved words. In order I have first letters D O F N D S. Does that look right and any clues on the missing four letters or the clues in which they will be found?
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mandyrob0704

11th September 2016, 11:50
Have a completed grid but struggling with the comedy duo because I didn't find many of the words to move right or left before solving. Would appreciate some hints as to which clues they are in. Thanks
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unclued

11th September 2016, 12:10
The across clues that contain moved letters include 15 17 and 18. There are 5 in across clues and 5 in down clues.
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