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17 across clue: belonging to a former era. its a two word answer: first word three letters T?? next word ?R?E I can not get this one unless my letters are wrong any help would be welcome thanks.

Old time?

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15d winch

thank you having made some changes it now works out

thank you I have taken notice of what you gave me and everything has just fallen into place very grateful for your help.