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Number 2 is (4,4,6) sorry, Got one handed washing up glove, great clue. Thanks

1. Song or street cry (6,4,6,4,4,1,3,4,3,4,4,4,3,3)
It's a street cry (and song) about a small round red fruit

Have you got the first one now or do you need more assistance?

assistance would be appreciated, thank-you

its a song by charles dodgson

2. ah-har jim lad

1. Song or street cry (6,4,6,4,4,1,3,4,3,4,4,4,3,3)
The words of the song are by Robert Herrick and there is a painting with the same title by Millais.
If you give up then Google: song street cry millais

5 thorny bloom is more insane

Yes I have found it, Cherry ripe etc, thanks to all for their help and advice, and especially the great clues, could not have done it with out you help

Gary