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unhelpful

26th December 2012, 17:26
This is an excellent puzzle, and well worth some head-scratching.

The thematic phrase and instructions from the omitted/extra letters, the two quotations and the symmetry in the completed grid all help each other. If the setter believed the puzzle to be unsolvable without more information, the preamble would have given some. It doesn't. The puzzle is there to be solved as it stands.

Nobody is expected to complete this type of puzzle in ten minutes flat. It's a Listener. It's not meant to be easy - persistence and doggedness are required.

The closing date is still over a week away, and for those not planning on submitting an entry no time limit exists. Three semi-lucky people will receive a dictionary for their efforts (currently available for only £20 on Amazon) but nobody else will get anything at all, not even a pat on the back from their mates. They may award themselves some kudos from having 'beaten' the setter, but those who've had a leg-up along the way are fooling nobody but themselves.

Here's a thought: maybe someone should write to the Listener editors, suggesting that the solution be printed alongside the puzzle, for the sake of those who can't be bothered to think.

Happy New Year.
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unclued

27th December 2012, 08:42
Answer to clue 42 is in previous edition of Chambers. What is the other one? Can anyone help with -
One who resisted leaders of Girondins?
Thanks - 4 more to go!

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serpentinew

27th December 2012, 10:12
unclued - I think it is 5 and 30 that are not in the current edition of Chambers - in that they are names and Chambers 12th has no names section. Having said that the 4 that elude me are 5,6,7 and 8.
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unclued

27th December 2012, 11:22
Thanks serp. I need 5,6,17 and 18. 7 and 8 are ulling and hieing. I'm quite new to these crosswords and find the help on this forum really useful - thanks a lot.
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serpentinew

27th December 2012, 11:32
Wooers - w(with) + loo + er's (belonging to monarch) and Ulcers (extra l) - the derivation of which temporarily escapes me but gives an extra o
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krauton

27th December 2012, 11:32
5= grid gandhi clued gandi (h not clued)
g and i
6= grid soenag clued soegnag (middle g is extra) goes backwards with nag.
7= grid ulling clued rulling (one l is extra) l in ruling.

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krauton

27th December 2012, 11:34
SORRY 6 SHOULD BE SEONAG NOT SOENAG
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krauton

27th December 2012, 11:40
sorry
7= grid ulling clued rulling (r is extra) l in ruling.
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leon

27th December 2012, 19:49
thanks to this thread and keratin, I have at last finished grid, and have instructions etc, now for the final bit, if I can wrap my brain around the instructions. If anyone needs any answers don't hesitate to ask.
Leon
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unclued

27th December 2012, 21:10
Thanks Leon. I only do these crosswords for fun and they are starting to dominate my life! Mrs U doesn't approve!
Can anyone explain the wordplay for 18 - ulcers?
The final quote is one I haven't heard before.
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