thank you both so much,ROSSIM and LES40,
still cant fathom 4acr though,n??m,if immense is right "need" does'nt fit in,
forgot 28acr,(1,1,1),greener fuel for cars,
LP?.
THANKS AGAIN,ROSSIM,i am putting "norm" in, it's the only one that fits,
i am off to beddy-byes now,my wee eyes are shutting!ha,ha,goodnight my friend,you are a star! luv,Beth xxxx