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jazzgirl

27th November 2012, 17:28
hi magworth
Sorry to say campari is not the answer.
first 3 letters synonym for hit. Last 4 name of a drink . Whole word = bond
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magworth

27th November 2012, 18:44
Thank you chrise and jazzgirl. I was trying to
work in`pari` - an anagram of `pair` to mean bond!!
No floods here but approach roads - the M25 and A127 have been affected. I hope others are OK.
Mags.
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chrise

27th November 2012, 18:48
We have been relatively lucky in East Lancs. Although the summer was dreadful, it has only been "normally" wet the last couple of months.
We had a break in the Forest of Bowland in August, when walking through the fields was like trying to walk through porridge. It is actually marginally better now, though a walk a couple of days ago had long stretches where every step risked a lost welly!
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genehunt

28th November 2012, 12:45
I have to smile at the comments on this forum, what's wrong with finding the answers for yourself, it's only a crossword, not like football (more than life or death) there seem to be some lonely souls about, looking for someone to contact, more than seek answers, lately it's started to become a weather summary!
Just to keep it in context, here's one of mine, for you real addicts;
A 9 letter word, and the clue is 'prepostorous orchestra'
Once you have got it, can you explain the deeper meaning of the clue, it has to do with definitions.
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mamya

28th November 2012, 13:04
Never a good idea to put the Cart before the horse.
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genehunt

28th November 2012, 13:42
Put the cart before the horse
Meaning

Reverse the accepted order of things.
Origin

The first reference to this phrase in English comes in George Puttenham's The arte of English poesie, 1589:
How can something be, at one, before (pre) and after (post)? preposterous!
"We call it in English prouerbe, the cart before the horse, the Greeks call it Histeron proteron, we name it the Preposterous."

He was probably referring back to, or possibly translating directly from, a work by Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC) - On Friendship:

"We put the cart before the horse, and shut the stable door when the steed is stolen, in defiance of the old proverb."

The hysteron proteron that Puttenham noted relates to similar phrases from Greek authors. In grammatical terms a hysteron proteron is a figure of speech in which the thing that should come second is put first; for example, 'putting on one's shoes and socks'. This may be done for literary effect of simply without thought. This form is extended into more general use in phrases like the 2nd century Greek satirist Lucian's 'the cart draws the ox', or Theocritus' 'the hind hunts the dogs'.

Various other phrases that refer to things being the opposite of what they rightfully should be are found in English, notably "the tail is wagging the dog".

The Dutch have a similar proverb - "het paard achter de wagen spannen", i.e. "harness the horse after the wagon".
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mamya

28th November 2012, 13:51
Yes
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genehunt

29th November 2012, 03:48
Nicely put, mamya, by the way, nice picture box.
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mrs trellis

1st December 2012, 07:40
Hi folks, I've come to this a bit late this week and haven't finished yet (not being as clever as genehunt) but will plod on. In common with genehunt, I find people take part in things which I don't see the sense of - like modern-day angling: throwing out some bait by way of a forum post, then sitting waiting by the computer line to see who he reels in. Then re-casting later, but still no-one takes the bait. Bad luck gene, but at least it's warmer than a riverbank :-)
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mondrian

1st December 2012, 12:12
Greetings to all our regulars. Help needed, yet again,

1D Deciding on a knight etc etc (9)
12A A young traveller etc etc (12)

And of course no clue for 21 down. At first I wondered if the RT compiler was giving us an extra little puzzle to solve!!
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