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martin

6th November 2012, 23:10
I'm still stumped by 17a & 23a. Think I'll sleep on them. Maybe some kind soul will have given me a hint or two by the morning.
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mrs trellis

6th November 2012, 23:21
Hi martin, 17a pairing - think first & last
23a clue answer is 4 letters, No 10 = x.
Hints for 7d & 11a please?
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martin

6th November 2012, 23:33
Thank you, Mrs T, I've got them now. For 11a, think of a Cowardly song, so to speak: the original clue is two words (4,4). For 7d,which is a normal clue, think of a sailors' chant for the definition.
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sunray

6th November 2012, 23:38
I am still struggling but I do have 7d.

The first and third words rhyme. Second and third words make up what you give someone when you give them a push.
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ixion

6th November 2012, 23:43
Thanks for the clarification Crucible, hope I didn't sound too much of a curmudgeon for pointing it out.
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dizoz

7th November 2012, 02:17
Hi all,
thought I was almost there but reading posts I am still unsure of a few.
3d - E_S_A (proper name),
8d - L_E,_A_ _,
16a _E_ _ _ , and is Charlie's a drink and his place at the rear?
would love hints
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livs

7th November 2012, 08:30
Hi Dizoz

3d - E_S_A not a proper name, first letter not E
8d - L_E,_A_ _ kind of associated with 11A (or women)
16a _E_ _ _ , and is Charlie's a drink and his place at the rear? see previous posts on this thread for lots of hints
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livs

7th November 2012, 08:31
Hi Dizoz

3d - E_S_A not a proper name, first letter not E
8d - L_E,_A_ _ kind of associated with 11A (or women)
16a _E_ _ _ , and is Charlie's a drink and his place at the rear? see previous posts on this thread for lots of hints
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livs

7th November 2012, 08:42
oops, don't know what happened there.

So, I couldn't give up and now I've finished, but only with the help of you guys, so thanks.

I've also realised why I don't like this type of crossword: it reminds me of tedious parlour games at Christmas, when growing up.

Ah well, that's it for another month.
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james

7th November 2012, 08:59
Can anyone explain the word play for 17A? The five-letter word (NOT the word that goes into the grid). I assume the first 3 letters = "mount", but I don't see the rest of it.
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