13d, I am really missing something here, possibly my brain. Like Popes poetry?. I check room everywhere.
?o?k?e?o?c. It is two words, four and six letters.
Thank you Rambler and andyc. My chances of obtaining that answer must be 10,000 to 1. I now can see how it is arrived at but I was thinking of the Pope in Rome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.