I am sure that you must be correct berkspotter, in which case I will have to rethink 7 down which I queried yesterday (Clue Parson's glebe from French? 4,2,3,6) which Aristo suggested could be Land of the Parish but sudatorium would give me an 'i' instead of the 'a' in parish Both solutions sound right, so somethings gotta give! Many thanks anyway. HB