im finally back after a long time away!.ive had trouble with my computer,and trouble validating.apparently it would not accept my user name of Nytram for some reason?.I would like to thank among others sallyw,wendy,jazzgirl,tonyw,pastille etc for your kind words,and thoughts.and best wishes to paul,hope the little one is ok?.well must dash Oblib requires food (again)tut tut!best wishes to all.Nytram/Oblib woem woem.